I’ve got a few announcements before I get to today’s conversation.

First, I wanted to let you know that next week, there won’t be a podcast on Wednesday, because I’m moving to an every-other-week format.

This has been a long time coming, and I’ve been resisting it like crazy, because I’ve been producing a weekly podcast for almost three and a half years now. And pulling back from that production schedule feels like I’m letting someone down.

And the reality is, the more podcasts I produce — the more frequently I publish — the more downloads I get, and the more likely the Creative Sandbox Way™ podcast is to become popular.

At least theoretically…

And I confess, there’s some ego here. Part of me wants that! It hasn’t happened yet, but hey, one can always hope, right?

But the other reality is, I’m running a business. And much as I love producing the podcast, it doesn’t really have that much impact on the side of my business that really pays the bills, which is my consultancy, Creative Sandbox Solutions™.

The side of my business that the podcast impacts most, the B2C side, isn’t the side with the most revenue potential, shall we say.

So, I took a good, hard, look at where my time goes, and a lot of my time is going into producing the podcast every week, and I need to liberate more time to create content that will actually have direct impact on my consultancy.

When I wrote my book, The Creative Sandbox Way™, I had to get ruthless about where my time and energy were going, to get the book done. And I have to do the same thing now in order to get this consultancy where I want it to go.

Hence the decision to scale back the podcast to every other week.

That way I can put more time into writing content that can become articles and speeches and other types of content that will actually help me grow my business.

So that’s that.

And in that same vein, I recently started a Meetup group, Creative Sandbox Meetup, the purpose of which is to create in-person opportunities to introduce people to the LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® and the other experiential play-based methods that I use in my consultancy, in hands-on meetups. Because trying to explain them in words just doesn’t cut it.

So, if you’re in Silicon Valley, join Creative Sandbox Meetup! I’m holding meet ups, like UN-Networking with LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY®, every month.

And meanwhile, I’m continuing to hold Creative Sandbox Playdays just about every month, too! Including this Sunday.

So if you’re in Silicon Valley, come join me at Etz Chayim Creative Sandbox Playday! It’s a half-day co-working retreat, to come together with other artists, writers, creatives, and makers, to create in community.

We all know how hard it is to create in isolation, so come work on a creative project, or just play with art supplies — yours or mine — in the company of others.

And it’s just $25 for the whole day. Go to creativesandboxplayday.com for all the details, and to sign up!

So that is all the announcements for this week. I’ll see you again in two weeks with another conversation and perhaps some more news.

CSW 185: Jenni Heffernan Brown Is the Quintessential Type A CreativeJenni Heffernan Brown is formerly a co-founder of Prim’d Marketing; today she is a brand strategist and creative director, also the host of The Type A Creative, a podcast for driven creatives, exploring how artists can build a thriving creative practice while also building a thriving career. Jenni’s experience ranges from global brands such as Pepsi and Taco Bell to small businesses and creative entrepreneurs. When she isn’t creating a beautiful marketing and brand strategy, she’s fighting for time to write and illustrate for herself and others through Creative Sunday Lab, her monthly work-dates for artists.

I first met Jenni in an online community for business owners we both belong to, CoCommercial. Then she invited me on her podcast, The Type A Creative. And then I got to meet her in person, when I went to her very first Creative Sunday Lab, a co-working day for artists and makers she hosts on the last Sunday of the month in San Francisco.

I was so impressed by not only Jenni’s creativity, and her commitment to excellence, but the way she thinks BIG! I invited her on the podcast to talk about all of the above, plus a whole lot more.

Let me know what resonates most with you about Jenni’s story. Where will you take action on an idea? How can you think bigger about something you want to do?

In this episode we talked about:

  • What Creative Sunday Lab is & why Jenni decided to start it
  • The value of working alongside other creatives
  • Her vision for the future of Creative Sunday Lab
  • How Jenni got started with The Type A Creative podcast
  • Where The Type A Creative falls on the art and commerce spectrum
  • Her decision to close her marketing agency
  • The importance of setting limits for ourselves and our lives
  • Jenni’s current transition period and what is next for her
  • The creative practices bring her joy

Mentioned In This Episode


Creative Mornings


Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown

Melissa’s Something Cool: Percussionist Tapping Reel Tape

Jenni’s Something Cool: iPad Art: Create a Monster – An Introduction to Procreate with Nic Squirrell

Connect with Jenni Heffernan Brown

Website | Instagram |


“Creative Sunday Lab was almost a gift to myself to get other people to sit around the room and do the same thing so it wasn’t so scary to hit submit or to write or to try something audacious.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“I would love there to be Creative Sunday Labs all over the place.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“There’s something about being in a beautiful environment that I find really, really inspiring.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“Finding the right home for your work, I find, is also a full time job.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“I think a lot of us are closet creatives.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“There never was an example in my life growing up of somebody who was an artist who was also making a livelihood.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“I had fought really hard for the ability to say to my creativity, ‘I’m going to invest money in you and you may not invest back and that’s ok.’” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“It was really difficult to quit a good thing.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“We can’t go to where we’re going to next in the vehicle that we’re in now.” – Jenni Heffernan Brown

“You sometimes have to destroy something to build something new.” – Melissa Dinwiddie


Listeners Wanted!

Has the Creative Sandbox Way™ podcast made a difference in your life? Would you like to be featured on the podcast?

I love sharing listener stories, so if you have a story of how listening to the podcast has changed your life for the better in some way — big or small — I want to feature you in a Listener Spotlight.

Here’s how it works:

1. Just log into iTunes and leave a rating and review. (If you don’t know how to do that, you’ll find step-by-step instructions at creativesandboxway.com/itunes-review).

2. Then copy and paste what you wrote in your review into an email, and send it to me, along with why you want to be featured in a Listener Spotlight, and how the podcast has made a difference in your life. You can email me at creativesandboxway.com/contact.

That’s it!

If I pick you for a Listener Spotlight, we’ll have a relaxed, fun conversation, and the recording of our conversation will be part of a future episode! How cool is that?

Want a creative kick start?
Check out my book!

The Creative Sandbox Way: Your Path to a Full-Color Life, by Melissa Dinwiddie

What would change for you if you could totally revel in the joy of creating? You CAN, with The Creative Sandbox Way!

You’ll learn:

  • Melissa’s 10 fool-proof guideposts that have helped thousands get joyfully creating.
  • 5 reasons why creative play is good for you, AND for the world (it’s neuroscience, baby!)
  • Why “I’m not creative” is always a lie, and how to bust it.
  • How to turn creative blocks into friends.

AND you’ll get creating right in the book itself. 

ChrisGuillebeau“It’s one part field guide, one part creative practice—and I loved it. The Creative Sandbox Way is an adventure packaged as a book.”

~Chris Guillebeau
NYT best-selling author of The Happiness of Pursuit and The $100 Startup

Buy The Creative Sandbox Way by Melissa Dinwiddie - checkout with Amazon


Hear ye, hear ye! This is to serve as official notice that all links to anything for sale, be it books or courses, are likely to be affiliate links. What this means is that if you click through said links and make a purchase, although it won’t affect the price that you pay, a few coins will jangle into my coffers, enabling me to buy a packet of hard gluten-free biscuits to feed myself and my husband for another day, or perhaps a pen with which to create some artwork. Or perhaps they will contribute toward paying a fraction of my web hosting bill, so that this blog and podcast can continue to exist. Thank you kindly for your attention.

Thanks for Listening!

Thanks so much for joining me this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post.

Also, please leave an honest review for Creative Sandbox Way™ on Tunes!

If you’d also like your voice to be heard on the show, leave your question as a voice message right here.

And finally, don’t forget to subscribe to the show on iTunes to get automatic updates.

Subscribe in iTunes | Subscribe via Stitcher

Now go get creating!

xo, Melissa <3

PS — Pssst! Know someone who might benefit from seeing this today? Pass it on!

Manifestos by Melissa DinwiddieSubscribe to My Newsletter and Get My Manifesto!

Click Here!


Get the Inside Scoop!

Join our mailing list to receive entertaining tips & updates via email no more than once a week, and we'll send you our Team Assessment Tool to uncover the strengths and weaknesses of your team in under 10 minutes. 

You have Successfully Subscribed!